It didn't turn out to be a bad drama, but it's not like I missed something important! Ultimately, the show may have raised interesting questions, intentionally or not, but it gives a simplistic answer that's wholly unsatisfying in this regard. But it was all real, which made me more disappointed than I thought. But overall i really had fun and thrill watching it. I dropped this drama once Yi Heon died, but have been keeping up with recaps only to be disappointed with what the writers have been doing every episode. Distracted, Moo-young tries to get to Ha Sun, but hes stopped by a sword through the chest. To me this drama was about Haksan and his quest to get the Dadong tax law passed. And clothes? Dunno but I enjoyed it veeery much. }; Why didnt the Queen let his sister know who she was, Also I was also confused at how Shin got back in the palace back in his uniform for the assembly meeting when he broke out of jail And was sentenced to death, Because I loved the drama so much and was on the edge of my seat I was expecting a Scarlet Heart type ending or Queen for Seven Days even but do t get this one at all but would still give it 9/10. Two years pass by and we see So Woon a broken shell of the woman she once was. However, the clown is a dual symbol. Ha Sun kept his nose to the grindstone, and lined up a successor. I really liked this drama. Would have been nice if Officer Jang could have had a chance at a normal life. What was the point? Absolutely no repercussions, to the King even existing, let alone the Clown taking the throne and the King dying. // Load the SDK asynchronously Sorry for the late reply! Then Officer Jang and him could have travelled far searching for the queen, end up in this town at the end and reunited. I thought I would have caught up through at least ep. Idk anymore. Its based on Ha Suns name, which means summer fairy, and Eunuch Jo says it perfectly suits him because hes like the summer sun that shines equally over everyone. And i also think the doppelganger part is seemingly only the possible way to a mere clown to become a king. Thanks for noting that Yoon Park portrayed Ha Sun's successor, Lord Giseong. @sicarius Why not let him save Ha Seon and then serve him for those two magic years? It's an interesting interpretation, but I prefer them alive :). It showed his past. But still could not convince other ministers because if they were proved wrong they will loose their necks. Loved the show and all the actors, especially the King, not the ending, but glad I watched it. He says that serving Ha Sun has been a once in a lifetime blessing, and they hug, both of them crying. It makes me soooo maaadddd!!! Lee Bang-won in Six Flying Dragons who murdered his mentor and is thus one of my favorite characters of all time). Though I really feel bad for our queen. Was she too pure to have sex? And . Why did you bother to watch it if you thought it was so bad? And its not because I didnt get the ending that I wanted that makes me sad. I'll definitely read it. There almost were- with the Queen almost committing suicide out of guilt, Shin almost exposing the Clown as a fake, and Ha Seon finding out Haksan killed the king. (function(d, s, id) { It's not that King Loves is terrible, but if you put MLDBC, MLSHR and KL on a scale, KL veers more towards the extreme that is occupied by MLSHR, instead of the MLDBC extreme. It was unconvincing. And I'm not alone, for Beans of Wisdom threads can prove you that. The first scene in this episode sets the tone. If you want to tell a story about a Clown being King, do NOT make that ENTIRE premise hinge on a single character and then treat him as a plot device! created an account to say, I totally agree with you. ;-). The goodbye scene to Eunuch Jo sniff so beautiful so sad. Oi She had nothing to lose and maybe something to gain by ratting him out. Nobody offered a friendly gesture to Diana, choosing Charles. Thank you @lollypip for the recap! The sweeping under the rug of the regicide, adultery, and treasonous impersonation issues was problematic for me. That being said I don't believe TCC passes either the probability or possibility test. People who watch sageuks want historically acurrate stories, right? I cannot watch two sageuks at the same time without getting the details bollixed up, even if they're set in different time periods. (Oh, right. Jung Bo-suk, Oh Man-seok, Kim Yeo-jin, and Jung Sung-mo are in it, which makes it very appealing. Like everyone else I feel the end was rushed and not thought out. The king very much liked practical jokes. I felt so angry that the ending felt like some type of trap for me. He begs Ha Sun to let him send Minister Lee to his people, but Moo-young warns Ha Sun that opening the gates right now is too dangerous with the rebels right outside. Aside from Queen Elizabeth II (Olivia Colman), season 4 follows: Princess Margaret (Helena Bonham Carter), the Queen's younger sister. I have seen a lot if historical dramas because i generally like historical/costume dramas and this is certainly a drama that i really enjoyed. I didnt watch more than the first episode, but to kill off such a central character and then not resolve the conflict that the murder would have caused would have been an utterly frustrating watch for me as well. She did get to meet his sister without knowing it was her. ). Maybe if you have a better way to say it one day you will get a chance to write a drama yourself. I'm interested to see what's up his sleeve in his forthcoming drama. How did he recover from 3 arrows??? Ho-geol requests some time off, so Ha Sun suggests he take a working vacation to Jeju Island to see how the people like the new law, which is obviously not what Ho-geol had in mind. I learned a LOT back then. I am mad, salty, disappointed, call it what you will, at the mistreatment of the King as a written and constructed character. I truly enjoyed the drama's cinematography, particularly the outdoor settings. The people's hero Woo Do-hwan is MBC's Joseon Lawyer, First look at Kim Seo-hyung in ENA's Paper Moon, Drama viewership ratings for the week of Feb. 20-26, 2023. I never doubted that Ha Sun was capable of being a true king, but seeing him come into his own strength and take on his enemies himself, outsmart them, and return the nation to peace was extremely satisfying. That is, a Clown, who is the spitting image of the King, becomes king. It was a character with a vision for his country. They knew from the beginning that Ha Sun will have to step down. And some shows just seem to have an initial hump that I have to get over before they draw me in but then from there on out it's smooth sailing. And the drama did well as well. The Crowned Clown (2019) - Recommendations - MyDramaList The Crowned Clown (2019) Details Episode Guide Cast & Crew Reviews Recommendations Photos Edit this Page Make a Recommendation 8.8 The Red Sleeve (2021) Lee Se Young is the main Female Lead in both dramas Somewhat similar vibes but are pretty different plot-wise. Or change the two years to two weeks. This does not mean you cannot enjoy it. The ending of The Crown season 5 centers on Queen Elizabeth II's (Imelda Staunton) dramatic feelings of obsolescence while Prince Charles (Dominic West) fruitlessly campaigns for greater stature as the future King and the tragic fate of Princess Diana (Elizabeth Debicki) hangs in the air. He deserves it . Live together in a small hut just the two of them and So Woon's maid in obscurity for the rest of their lives? This went on for 3 or 4 times, the guard took advantage of it and oneday ordered to kill the disrespectful guard who is laughing at him (but actually the real king dressed in guard clothing ). Because, when making a sad ending, you have to make it believable enough so that the viewer does not feel like theyre being unnecessarily hurt. // Load the SDK asynchronously Minister Lee didn't see himself as a hero but more like a tool for his country not good or bad but useful. The decoy is a clown who happens to be the king's doppelgnger. For one example: Moo Young. A remake of the 2012 film Masquerade, the series centers on the tale of a Joseon King and his doppelganger, a clown whom he puts on the throne to escape the intense power struggles afflicting the royal court. Re: Ha Seon (YJG) in fighting blue. Among the antogonistic, closed-mided high officials, there was a belief of a there being a clowned crown. He should have walked away, been protected by the officer, who would then accompany him as he returned to the village incognito to meet up with his sister and the queen. <- this is exactly what I was expecting. Thank you. In the history of my country we also have a story like that. No no. That is the amount of respect or rather fear a king was able to inflict upon others in those days. They barely manage to suppress the assassins because..hasn't the King been shown to be excellent in archery and decent in using a sword? xfbml : true, // parse social plugins on this page But Minister Shin and the queen dowager convinced themselves that their crimes were righteous and that they were morally innocent, when in reality they only wanted power and revenge. It was about the time due to the constant conflict among the delegates of his courts. There's no fault in loving faulty things, but you have to see them for what they actually are. And I almost didnt even watch the reunion scene at the end because I knew exactly how it would play out. }); Meanwhile Ha Sun is torn after receiving an urgent letter regarding troops on the Frontier. version : 'v2.2' // use version 2.2 Thank you for recapping CROWNED CLOWN, @lollypip, especially as it is not the only drama on your plate. Eunuch Jo asks to come with him, but Ha Sun says he cant because hes recommended him for a promotion, and the new king needs him as much as he did when he first arrived in the palace. Tags: Lee Se-young, The Crowned Clown, Yeo Jin-gu, Your email address will not be published. (link to my Episode 8 write up because it wasnt letting me do it as a word hyperlink: http://www.dramabeans.com/members/sicarius/activity/709687/ ). I'll have to go back and rewatch it. Finally they live happily ever after. I'm glad the ending was portrayed as such, a little sad for those who would only ever want to find what they dont like instead of balancing it out and pointing out what they might have done well. Then what was the point ofanything that ever happened in this show? But Ha Sun tells her not to worry about it, because he plans to abdicate and has already chosen his successor Lord Giseong. You will receive a link to create a new password via email. He apologizes for not running to her faster, but she just throws her arms around his neck, happy that hes here now. Which means they both died. Part of my detachment is also because of what for me were inadequate characterization, and plotting that at times strained my suspension of disbelief. The ending failed. The King : I think it was sad they didn't show him more as a Crown Prince. He didn't even try to run. I have a few minutes here and there but this show needs my full attention lol. I recently read a forward (by Don Baker) to the Korean historical novel "Encounter" (1986) by Hahn Moo-Sook where he makes the point that scholars writing history are constrained to probability whereas novelists are constrained to possibility. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Gone. You're a neophyte. It saddens me that my sister can't do the same. Rather i think its because its extremely rare (almost impossible) to find a doppelganger who matches you in everyway to the extent that you are even able fool most intimate people like wives, closest servants etc. I cannot believe that Lord Shin would have allowed himself to walk into a trap. Im not usually a fan of vampire shows, but now I want that alternative ending/sequel. He does as So-woon asks and sends her from the palace to wait for him while he ties up some loose ends, and they arrange to meet in the village soon. If it was a challenge to my Sageuk Sages @kiara and @pakalanapikake then this sageuk punk is in good company. It is an 8/10 for me. Ha Sun tells Minister Shin, I will take your life and make you pay for stealing my letter, putting the border at risk, and endangering the capital for your personal gain.. Likewho took care of him? In January of the Year of the Black Pig, the king suppressed the rebel forces and ruled the nation wisely. She turns and theres Ha Sun, alive. @lovepark, I agree with you, especially with regard to: it was a bold move for the show to have Lee Kyu kill the king in secret and become the "king" from the shadows. While writing this analysis, I found out that "The Crowned Clown" was directed by Kim Hee-won, one of the very few female directors in the K-drama industry; she also directed the recent hit "Vincenzo." (Dang! He pauses in the courtyard for just a moment, then steps off the brick path and walks away, a relaxed smile on his face for the first time in years. Starring: Yeo Jin-goo, Lee Se-young, Kim Sang-kyung Creators: Kim Hee-won, Kim Seon-deok, Shin Ha-eun Watch all you want. Minister Shin manages to growl, You lowly clown before Ha Sun yanks back his sword and slashes his throat. Whether or not he was a lost cause because of his addictions, whether or not he was a bad husband or a bad King, is not relevant. But he tells her that hes been following the kings orders, and for his loyalty, Ha Sun forgives his crimes. What, he doesnt get to benefit from the magic two year time leap ? So what happens, when you kill him, and, moral implications aside, there are no consequences to this, is that your plot doesnt frakking make sense. Dont base it on a doppelganger trope at all if youre going to do that! Yup, I concur with all your points, @marcusnyc20 bong-soo. For a doppelganger Clown to become King, the King must already exist as a character. Queen Dowager walks into a trap of her own and we understand the extent of Ha Suns game-playing as he truly understands how to navigate the vipers pit. 4 Recommended by Shawarma Seriously reviewing shows is too exhausting; I rather like @hotcocoagirls idea of Yi Heon returning as a vampire, and becoming a sullen loose canon on the Officer Jang and Uri Mathematician investigative team. The drama took some risks like killing off the king halfway, according to the actor who played haksan it was something they had in mind since the beginning. window.fbAsyncInit = function() { I think they could show us the Lord "I don't remember his name" rebellion because it was not very clear and still had a big place in the story of this character. But then they killed Moo Young for no reason and it made me so inexplicably angry that I cant seem to move on. The recaps were enough. In the past, I've gotten myself in a swivet over dramas I was deeply invested in that later derailed or otherwise succumbed to out-of-character behavior, illogical happy endings, etc., etc. Please enlighten us. I give it a 10+++. He says that she hasnt been officially deposed yet, so shes still of higher status than the king, and can order him to dethrone the traitor clown. And your flimsy attempts at trying to justify this by saying that Ha Seon was better than Yi Heon and would never succumb to what Yi Heon did, mean nothing if you refuse to develop Yi Heon as a character! I have no qualms about it. After 15 episodes of drama, tension and romance we finally reach the conclusive chapter to this historical Korean show. He reaches up a hand for Ha Sun to grasp, then he dies, leaving Ha Sun wracked with grief. End of story. From shock and tension through to sadness and bittersweet goodbyes, this 75 minute episode encapsulated everything Ive loved about this show since I begun covering it 2 months ago. In the drama the writers won't be able to keep the clown on the throne in the end or they'll have to deal with some angry Korean viewers. Not really. A character as significant and prominent as the King, doesnt even have to be on screen for anything that happens to him to be very important to how your plot plays out if you want your plot to make sense. knew it would happen before the end of this drama: line 7, strike TTC and insert TCC. That's a leap as big as Everest, but okay, fine. We can write what we want but everyone involved in it worked really hard to bring this to life. The drama version had put their own spin on it. And it becomes very boring to watch. Then why have him shot at and left for dead? sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna. I'm totally mystified over how Ha Sun survived two arrows in the back (let alone managed to extract them by himself). The king's every move and poop was recorded so it would be very difficult to make a switch but Ha Sun was only subbing for the king for 15 days. One day, Ha Suns ministers bring up the fact that hes led the country to a time of peace, but hes still produced no heirs. One of these days I intend to watch SHIN DON, which may overlap with JEONG DO JEON. I honestly also would prefer this ending, as this is more fitting of the whole narrative. There have been worse plot resolutions. Why? She meets with Minister Shin, upset about how things went this morning, because when Prince Jin-pyung dies his soldiers will be demotivated. So what happens, when you kill him, and, moral implications aside, there are no consequences to this, is that your plot doesnt frakking make sense. Lord Giseong (cameo by Yoon Park), backs up Ha Sun, saying that he only wants to make sure the people are taking the correct medicines, making Ha Sun smile gratefully. I sure hope Lord Giseong was also PRINCE Giseong, because there would have been quite a commotion if Ha Sun had passed the crown outside the royal family. I was glad that Ho-sun and the Queen finally got together but the ending sounded more eternal due to the mist and not quite earthy. Showing Haksan in such slow-motion looked a bit off to me. The Crown Season 5 ending explained The episode begins with the Royal Family agreeing to the decommissioning of the royal yacht, Brittania. Starring Yeo Jin-goo, Lee Se-young, Kim Sang-kyung Genres Historical, Romance Subtitles English, Deutsch [automatisch], more, , , , , , , , , , , , Audio languages Watch for $0.00 with Prime Watch with Prime 3/4 Stars Yeo Jin-gu Se-yeong Lee Kim Sang-kyung See production, box office & company info Watch on Prime Video No one would let a lowborn guy like him to rule if he was not able to fool everyone to think he is the king. But Im also not surprised that he burned out quickly he wasnt raised to rule a country, nor did he ever really want the job. The cast and crew can be proud of their production; But Yeo Jin Gu is awesome throughout the drama, i love him. Prince Jin-pyung lies alone, bleeding and gasping for water. Is he now AWOL? Since Writer-nim didn't bother to reveal who patched up Ha Sun and kept him safe while he recovered, I'll fill in the blanks by assuming that he somehow ended up in the care of Doctor Monk. 2023 TheReviewGeek. Youre amazing cuz you even got the queen dowager to agree. I was sure there would be a flashbacks putting thing in context. A) Ha Seon gives up the throne. I've watched enough sageuks to understand the ethos even if I don't always personally agree with it, and am disturbed when social conventions and obligations of earlier historical periods are flouted, or treated as if they don't exist. He reminds us that to be a man is to make mistakes, to laugh and fool around. (Cases in point: TEMPERATURE OF LOVE and BECAUSE THIS LIFE IS OUR FIRST. episodes (13-16) I think it has found its groove (for me at least.) Though nervous he won't be able to pull off the subterfuge, the decoy leads successfully, and falls in love with the queen in the process. But he's not finished surprising us yet, as he contemplates a decision that could change the future of the entire nation. The way the camera panned out at the end with them walking off into nowhere and how there were no questions asked and she just said that she had seen him in her dreams etc, could mean that it was their souls reuniting and not their physical selves. Thinking the faulty thing has zero faults and loving it under THAT impression? The point I was trying to make in this essay, is that I think The Crowned Clown has objectively bad writing flaws- namely Yi Heon is an example of bad character writing, whether he dies or not (@leetennant) As for Moo-young he died with his boots on. The fact that he did it on his own, without Minister Lees help, was sad but also impressive, and he proved to himself that hes capable of anything despite his low birth. In my view, the story went downhill after Yi Heons death because almost nothing that was set up before then had any serious consequences. They want to show his loyalty via his death ? I was surprise when Ha Sun decide to abdicated but again it just makes the ending more beautiful. A pathetic attempt at last minute drama for characters I no longer care about and a plot that I think is fundamentally flawed only solidifies my opinion that this drama is written stupidly, and badly. What can I say. Rumors say there was a clown with the face of the king, and that he was alive, but none of them was revealed to be true. The upcoming CHRONICLES OF ASDAL, set during Gojoseon days.) Some found it a plot mistake but others didn't or found it interesting . The Crown season 5 ends with Princess Diana preparing to take her sons Prince William and Prince Harry on a holiday to St. Tropez, organized by Al-Fayed. Where was Ha Sun the whole time in those two years???? . N.B. Minister Lee : he was really a great character. He looked excellent. In the history of my country we had a doppelganger fake king ruling for 6 years. Also, MLSHR had one of the BEST instrumental collections of Sageuk-land. It helps to know that I am not the only one who struggled live watching two sageuks at the same time. It felt like I was really grinding my gears when I started watching HAECHI. :). PS: You're not a punk. I got my happy ending and a toe-to-head pan-up view of YJG in that awesome blue outfit (right after he killed Shin) looking like a bada** so I'm happy. 2. Me, too. He takes the throne and the queen dowager looks frightened, but shes relieved when Lord Younghwa, her choice for king, also enters the room. Im glad that some other comments mentioned it here. There are of course all the issues with adultery and what shouldve been her reaction given the historical context and even arguments about who was the better husband for her, but none of that is really that important or relevant because on a basic writing level, her character, after trying to commit suicide promptly forgot, or acted like the King as a character never existed and was never important. D Gray Man The 14th and Crown Clown Explained [CONFUSION CLEARED] 40,791 views Oct 18, 2019 1.1K Dislike Share Save Rash Plays 24.8K subscribers D Gray Man is amazing and I can't stress that. The final scene in the grassland was beautiful. At the very least, he would have to be conflicted about it, because he was only obeying Haksans orders because they came from the king or were in the kings best interests. 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